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  • posted a message on Masuda Method Discussion Thread! (Ooooh Shinies!)

    Quote from jameathan »

    Ah thank you I found out I made that noob mistake about the dittos a couple hours after I posted this. But 4 IV's isn't too terribly rare is it?

    4IVs are still a 1 in 182 chance. They're not that rare, but you're looking at catching 6 boxes of Dittos just to find a single 4IV one.

    Posted in: User Guides
  • posted a message on Masuda Method Discussion Thread! (Ooooh Shinies!)

    Quote from jameathan »

    Hi all, I'm in need here! Tired of being ripped off by the GTS with "6 perfect Iv" ditto's. I need someone from a different region (I'm Canada) that is willing to breed a 6 IV'd ditto and trade it for a 6 IV'd I'd breed so we'd both be able to get perfect pokemon and maybe even have them be shiny through the Masuda Method! So ya pm me or reply to this post. Also my fc is 1736-0506-0742.

    As a general rule, 6IV Dittos don't exist. At all. The chance of finding a 6IV Ditto in the friend safari is about 1 in 1,048,576 and you can't breed them so it's impossible to just make more.

    Everyone on the GTS lies and never trade for anything on there expecting more than 0 IVs, the worst nature and the worst ability.

    Posted in: User Guides
  • posted a message on Masuda Method Discussion Thread! (Ooooh Shinies!)

    Quote from AnEpicSquirrel »

    While MMing, my Pokemon forgot it's Egg Move (Dragon Pulse).  Can it relearn this with a Heart Scale?  I don't want to remove it to test this theory, since it can still pass the Egg Move on.

    Yes, it can be done. I've done this with Gibles, Tyrunts, Venipedes and Growlithes.

    Posted in: User Guides
  • posted a message on Egg Moves and Daycare Question

    1) So long as the pokemon originally had the egg move, it can be re-learned at any time for 1 heart scale.

    2) Moves will not update until after a Pokemon has been removed from the daycare. So if you leave a lv. 1 with egg moves in the daycare, all the children will have the egg move until you take it out, regardless of how many levels it gains.

    3) Only 1 parent needs to know the egg move to pass it down, male or female.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    Quote from ThunderTop »

    i dont think this method ruins anything. I mean, i will never give some random stranger my 5Ivs Shiny Pokemon Egg.

    1) Why? What are you losing if they steal it? Virtually nothing, just another 5IV pokemon. It only has value if a stranger decides to help you.

    2) The sites running big TSV lists (1500+) have a reputation system in place where anyone stealing eggs is blacklisted.

    So you have two safety nets working for you, there's virtually no reason not to do it. Well, aside from ruining any point of collecting shiny pokemon any more. But who cares about that, lolmoreshiniesplz.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Why are some pokemon with 0 spd or other stats desired?

    As far as I know there's 3 main reasons for 0 speed Pokemon:

    1) Moves like Gyro Ball cause more damage the slower you are. 

    2) Trick room causes slower Pokemon to go first.

    3) Aegislash has two formes that he changes between. One is high Atk/Sp.Atk with low Def/Sp.Def and the other is the opposite. He'll change into the high Atk/Sp.Atk form after making an offensive move and he'll change into the high Def/Sp.Def form after using King's Shield (which is a priority move, so it will outspeed everything anyways). The reasons you want 0 speed is you never want to take damage after switching into the offensive form, so you always want to go last.

     

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    I think nearly everyone agrees unanimously that the other uses of the program (namely to check the exact IVs of a pokemon) are good and useful and should have been a part of the base game.

    The only complaint that I've seen people lob against the program is that it allows people to abuse the SV function with large groups of people to hatch an absurd amount of perfect shinies with very little effort.

    All it would take for Nintendo to fix this would be to disallow the trading of eggs. Then we'd still have the awesome part of the program (checking IVs) and the abuse would stop.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    There's lists with 1500+ unique TSVs on them, meaning you're capable of making every 3rd egg shiny on average. These are on sites like Smogon, Reddit, etc. which are banning users who steal eggs.

    It's not arguable that this has made shinies incredibly easy to get. It has. Immensely easier. And it's not a select few, it's massive groups of people.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    Use whichever definition you'd like - my goal is not to personally educate you or anyone else on word definitions, I was simply explaining my stance. You're free to define hacking any way you please - I don't care if you only consider pokemon created on the 3rd tuesday of every second month to be hacking.

    The difference in your example is that you are not looking into any encrypted information when you chain. None. You are just following steps that people who hacked into the game determined. You are benefiting from hacking that other people have done, certainly, but you are not actively rummaging through your game's data.

    For this method, you must view encrypted information at every step of the process. You must use a program to hack into your game and view your egg SVs and you must hook up with another player who has hacked into their game to find their TSV. There is no point of the process that can work without actively viewing encrypted information for every single egg.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    Quote from Jaynohva »

    I guess it would depend on your perception of hacking then. For me, hacking involves altering and modifying data. This program just allows us to read what an egg will turn out to be before it hatches. I understand we are not suppose to know what our trainer value or shiny value is but you also need to understand that we weren't suppose to know certain information used in pokeradar and chain fishing too. 

    Hacking has never required that you change data, that is just one facet of it. Simply being able to read encrypted data or gain access to what you're not supposed to have access to is hacking, plain and simple. What you're calling hacking is basically just duping (creating new Pokemon/modifying old Pokemon) and is only a small subset of hacking.

    The pokeradar is a great example because the only reason we know exactly how it works is because people hacked into the game code and found out all the dirty details. That's a textbook example of hacking without alteration. The chain fishing is a little less so, because we don't actually know exactly how it works and because there's a guy in game who explicitly tells you to chain fish to find rare pokemon.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Shiny pokemon pin retrieving program

    It is definitely a hack, but it plays out more like an exploit than like any sort of duping program. It is not creating the Pokemon out of thin air, but it is letting you check the stats and force every flawless Pokemon to hatch as shiny.

    It defeats the entire purpose of the game for collectors, and has no effect on battlers except for easier access to shiny versions of their competitive team. There's going to be a lot of people who are more than a little upset that they spent a week hatching 1000 eggs to find their shiny while anyone is now spending 20 minutes and 5 eggs to find their shiny.

    Already we're seeing people who have made too many shinies to count just giving them away on other forums. These are 5IV shiny pokemon with the right nature, ability and egg moves and people are just giving them away.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Is Breeding a Shiny Pokemon with 5 perfect IVs probable?

    Quote from GrooseMcHades »

    So I'd have a 0.02% chance of getting a perfect Pokemon and there's no way to improve the odds unless you use hacks? 

    Closer to 0.03% but yeah, that's pretty much it. Keep in mind your "failures" would be 4IV Shiny Pokemon and you would have a 0.12% chance of getting a "failure".

    The overall chance of a 4 or 5 IV Shiny is about 0.15% which is way, way higher than any previous gen.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on Is Breeding a Shiny Pokemon with 5 perfect IVs probable?

    Odds aren't that bad. If you're using 2 perfect 5IV parents (eg. two scythers only missing sp.atk) then the chance of a perfect offspring (i.e. one missing only sp.atk) is about 19.27%. Now if you're using Masuda Method, the chance of getting a shiny is 1 in 682.67. So you should expect a perfect shiny in every 3542 eggs - but of course luck is the name of the game. If you get lucky, that egg will be in the first 100 you make. If you get unlucky, it may be in the 10,000th egg you make.

    This is ignoring the possibility that you're breeding for a pokemon with a specific ability (eg. scyther's technician or froakie's protean) which would increase the number of eggs needed.

    Or you can just ruin the point game and exploit it so you always get 5IV shiny eggs. Might as well use pokegen at that point.

    Posted in: Pokémon X/Y
  • posted a message on [Have] (Small update!)MASSIVE LIST of 5IV Shinies and more. Also trading 6IV'ed non-shinies & foreign perfect Pokemon!!

    Interested in a couple of your shinies, which ones are you able to re-name?

    Posted in: 6th Generation Trading
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