This thread is to tier every single Pokemon line available before postgame to let everybody know which Pokemon are better, saving them the grief of using, say, a Watchog. The tiers are Top, High, Upper Middle, Middle, Lower Middle, Low, and Bottom. Here is the format for suggesting a Pokemon's ranking:
1/3 for Tyrantrum for High. It can remedy its Speed with Dragon Dance, which also boosts Attack. Plus, great coverage with the elemental fangs boosted by Strong Jaw helps against anything. Remember, you guys can also vote for submissions, too!
1/3 for Aegislash at Top. It can become an unbreakable wall or attacking behemoth in a move or two, but it needs King's Shield to do so. Otherwise, it can fulfill any role you want it to without a lot of dedication. Also, no voting for yourself.
I am honestly a little bit uneasy about Garchomp not being top tier. Last I checked he is still considered to be Uber on Smogon.
Pokemon: Goodra, evolves from Sliggoo at level 50 in Rain, which evolves from Goomy at level 40.
Availability: Can be caught as a Goomy on route 14, or as a Sliggoo on route 19.
Notable Moves: Power Whip, Aqua Tail, Dragon Tail, Outrage, Dragon Pulse, Sludge Bomb... etc. Egg Moves: Counter, Curse, Iron Tail, Poison Tail, Endure, Acid Armor
Stats: HP 90 / Atk 100 / Def 70 / SAtk 110 / SDef 150 / Spd 80, can tank Special Attack based moves, moderately fast but hits hard.
Ranking Suggested: Top
+ Three competitively useful abilities. Sap Sipper gives Goodra an immunity to Grass types. Hydration works well on Rain Dance teams. Gooey reduces the Speed stat of enemy pokemon whose attacks make direct contact with it.
+ Great tank pokemon and learns moves to counteract types it is weak to.
- Goomy evolves really late in game and is pretty weak early on.
- In order to get Sliggoo to evolve you must be in an area where it is raining.
Here's one for me: (had to type this out because spoiler tags aren't working)
Gastly, Haunter and Gengar Ranking: Top to High Availability: Haunter can be found on Route 14 (very rare, Level 31), Frost Cavern (uncommon, Level 38-40), Route 19 (very rare, Level 47) and Victory Road (uncommon, Level 58). Evolve Haunter into Gengar by trading with another game. Stats: Haunter: Very high Special Attack and great Speed, terrible everything else; Gengar: Below average HP, Attack and Defense, average Sp Def, epic Special Attack, very high Speed; Mega Gengar: Below average HP and Attack, above average Defense and Sp Def, phenomenal Special Attack, epic Speed Notable Moves: Hypnosis, Confuse Ray, Shadow Ball, Destiny Bond, Toxic, Venoshock, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Will-o-Wisp, Dazzling Gleam + Very fast with amazing Special Attack + Three immunities (at least in regular form) + You can get the Gengarite almost immediately after catching it (or before even depending on where you get it), and Mega Gengar has the highest Special Attack of anything you can obtain before beating the game + Can obliterate most Fairy-types like they're nothing + Has plenty of interesting moves to utilize - Overall not very defensive (though Mega adds a bit more defenses) - Mega Gengar can be hit by Ground-type moves Quick Summary: One of the best Pokémon in the game, between amazing Special Attack, three immunities, being strong against Fairy-types and getting an even stronger Mega Evolution that you can use pretty much right away, Gengar is one you can never go wrong with. Just be mindful of its somewhat lackluster Defenses.
Whats the point with this, when all the good pokemon builds have been known for quit some time now :)
Well, in competitive battling yes, but not in-game. Because there are over 400 Pokémon in the Kalos Pokédex, it's best to know which ones are the most effective, ones that are okay but have disadvantages compared to similar others, and ones you wouldn't touch with a 39 1/2 foot pole. If you're playing through the game more than once, then you'll know which might suit you. Who knows, someone might want a challenge by playing through the game with Pokémon only in the Low and Bottom tiers. :P
Anyway, that aside, i'll submit another, this time for one of my favorite Pokémon:
Venipede, Whirlipede and Scolipede Ranking: High to Upper Middle Availability: Venipede can be found jumping out of bushes on Route 6. Evolve Venipede into Whirlipede at Level 22, then Scolipede at Level 30. Stats: Venipede: Below average Defense and Speed, terrible everything else; Whirlipede: Great Defense, above average Sp Def, below average Attack, bad everything else; Scolipede: Great Attack, very high Speed, above average Defense (less than Whirlipede, interestingly), average Sp def, below average HP and poor Sp Atk Notable Moves: Swords Dance, Poison Jab, Megahorn, X-Scissor, Screech, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Baton Pass, Dig, Toxic, Iron Defense (Whirlipede only), Agility + You can get Poison Jab and Swords Dance relatively early in the game, so it's not totally screwed over + Gets a small Attack boost here + STAB Megahorn FTW, along with other nice moves such as Earthquake and Rock Slide + Has pretty balanced all-around stats + Can Baton Pass any non-Special stat if you really want to be creative - Can be hard to use before it becomes Scolipede - Bad Special Attack means it can't really use Venoshock - Its STABs can be easily resisted, and it's mostly stuck with those until the end of the game (though Scolipede can learn Dig for Steel-types) Quick Summary: Fast, gets some cool moves and can stand up to Fairy-types. However, it can be hard to use effectively until it fully evolves.
Stats: Below Average Attack, Bad Attack, High Defense and Special Attack, Average Special Defense, Awful Speed
Ranking Suggestion: Middle to Upper Middle
+It evolves almost immediately after begin caught.
+It has very good Special Attack and Defense stats.
-It has a horrible Speed stat.
-It has a double Ground weakness
I agree. Magnezone should be Middle/Upper Middle.It is very underrated. :/
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